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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 2 months ago
Yes James tells us that because all your freedom is for, to such an extent that you don’t really understand any more what freedom from is from: you are so entirely dedicated to what is constructively appropriate that all prohibitions are moot.
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.7 The beginning in the middle in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 2 months ago
Well, Rich, In Romans 8:19, we read about ourselves: “For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.” It seems that Creation has been “groaning in travail” waiting for us, the sons of daughters of God! I think that this is an ongoing process, Hildegard of Bingen the 12th Century Abbess who wrote so wonderf…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.7 The beginning in the middle in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 2 months ago
Well, Rich, In Romans 8:19, we read about ourselves: “For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.” It seems that Creation has been “groaning in travail” waiting for us, the sons of daughters of God! I think that this is an ongoing process, Hildegard of Bingen the 12th Century Abbess who wrote so wonderf…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 3.9 Jesus interprets Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 2 months ago
Yes I have your message Maura !! And the follow-up box is ticked
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Absolutely Rich, humour without any ill intent or desire to humiliate is such a powerful force for good.
‘By laughing at ourselves with others, we begin to discover how like them we are, what fun it is to be with them, and how much fun it is going to be to enjoy them more in the future’.
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Absolutely Rich, humour without any ill intent or desire to humiliate is such a powerful force for good.
‘By laughing at ourselves with others, we begin to discover how like them we are, what fun it is to be with them, and how much fun it is going to be to enjoy them more in the future’.
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Yes Rich, learning is certainly contingent upon a starting point of mutual understanding between teacher and student. The hand washing process is also a symbolic way of leaving something behind, don’t you think? The classic example of course is Pontius Pilate, and I think James meaning here is the newly found “freedom for” that we evolve into…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Yes Rich, learning is certainly contingent upon a starting point of mutual understanding between teacher and student. The hand washing process is also a symbolic way of leaving something behind, don’t you think? The classic example of course is Pontius Pilate, and I think James meaning here is the newly found “freedom for” that we evolve into…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.5 The banquet in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Congratulations on the opportunity to preach Rich, this is certainly justly deserved! I am not quite sure, however, how you are addressing the question concerning the insights and content from the previous session, which discusses the theme of freeing us from idolatry, in particular of rules and clerical leadership. Do you mean that the very…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Rich, here we are looking at what James describes as “a final similarity between the half way house and Church: both are structured spaces in which people move beyond being free from something to being free for something. In the case of Church, being free from being run by death and its fear to being free for new forms of togetherness and…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Rich, here we are looking at what James describes as “a final similarity between the half way house and Church: both are structured spaces in which people move beyond being free from something to being free for something. In the case of Church, being free from being run by death and its fear to being free for new forms of togetherness and…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Rich, here we are looking at what James describes as “a final similarity between the half?way house and Church: both are structured spaces in which people move beyond being free from something to being free for something. In the case of Church, being free from being run by death and its fear to being free for new forms of togetherness and…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Rich, here we are looking at what James describes as “a final similarity between the half?way house and Church: both are structured spaces in which people move beyond being free from something to being free for something. In the case of Church, being free from being run by death and its fear to being free for new forms of togetherness and…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 4 months ago
Rich, here we are looking at what James describes as “a final similarity between the half?way house and Church: both are structured spaces in which people move beyond being free from something to being free for something. In the case of Church, being free from being run by death and its fear to being free for new forms of togetherness and…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 5 months ago
Well, Rich, it is absolutely delightful to hear of someone who us genuinely ‘walking the walk’. James, when referring to our patterns of desire and the ‘Our Father’, has the following to say…”As we read the Our Father, imagine yourself as highly malleable, being stretched between two force?fields, two patterns of desire. The Our Father is…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 6 months ago
Yes, travel so often is “walking a mile in another’s shoes”. We come to realise that our point of view or way of seeing things is not necessarily correct, and is perhaps actually really limited. James tells us how rewarding it can be …. ” using a series of images to demonstrate that Church life involves undergoing a huge shift in perspective.…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.4 The portal and the embassy in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 6 months ago
That is a wonderful description of baptism Rich. It is rather like James’s thinking on baptism expressed in different words as “Like a portal from another universe, ……….What’s odd is that the portal that has opened up looks remarkably like a dead criminal, executed under shameful circumstances. It seems more like a failure than a rich act o…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.3 The restaurant and the halfway house in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 6 months ago
Rich, thank you for your kind words. I have really enjoyed our chats and I do hope to have more of them. Yes, there are down times when we need to digest, so I attach something that helped me immensely when I wanted everything to happen yesterday. This was sent to me years ago by a very good friend, so I hope it will be as valuable to you as it…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.3 The restaurant and the halfway house in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 6 months ago
Rich, thank you for your kind words. I have really enjoyed our chats and I do hope to have more of them. Yes, there are down times when we need to digest, so I attach something that helped me immensely when I wanted everything to happen yesterday. This was sent to me years ago by a very good friend, so I hope it will be as valuable to you as it…[Read more]
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Sheelah replied to the topic 4.3 The restaurant and the halfway house in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum 7 years, 6 months ago
Rich, thank you for your kind words. I have really enjoyed our chats and I do hope to have more of them. Yes, there are down times when we need to digest, so I attach something that helped me immensely when I wanted everything to happen yesterday. This was sent to me years ago by a very good friend, so I hope it will be as valuable to you as it…[Read more]
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