ForgivingVictim | Site-Wide Activity https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/ Activity feed for the entire site. Tue, 14 Apr 2026 15:53:36 -0500 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 92e113a1394c0ad44a368d5648662d45 Gordon Davies replied to the topic 1.2 The social other in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/the-social-other/#post-47337 Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:57:49 -0500 Especially during self-isolation in the covid crisis (summer 2020), we are aware of our reliance on others.

]]> 0 da92e71f983e8a15f225751e148d5d32 Sheelah replied to the topic 1.1 An odd beginning in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-1-an-odd-beginning/#post-47318 Thu, 21 Mar 2019 04:30:36 -0500 Phillip, welcome. I don’t think that we have met before, but I see that your spiritual journey resembles mine immensely. Relaxing into our faith is a very James phrase, and yes, you will find that.

Some years ago I studied Deuteronomy with a Hebrew speaking Jesuit, and it was a true revelation. ‘The Wilderness’ and ‘The Promised Land’ were not…[Read more]

]]> 0 11fc6465e93a2202211c02139ebfa564 Phillip changed their profile picture https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2507/ Wed, 20 Mar 2019 22:52:23 -0500 0 7df9210d6e2265aca1878ec304800a74 Phillip's profile was updated https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2506/ Wed, 20 Mar 2019 22:41:45 -0500 0 b4e0ddc662aa045de6e7bf0c53a07f10 Phillip replied to the topic 1.1 An odd beginning in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-1-an-odd-beginning/#post-47317 Wed, 20 Mar 2019 22:24:53 -0500 I don’t know how God has been communicating with me today. I used to have a Jesuit priest as a spiritual director, and I used to practice the examen pretty regularly as a means of trying to discern God’s presence in my life, but I could never tell when I was just engaging in wishful thinking. Is a feeling of consolation always a sign of God’s…[Read more]

]]> 0 8e13296afcfb8a7d70e5d14a6746721c Sheelah replied to the topic 2.4 The final edition in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-9-the-final-edition/#post-47314 Wed, 13 Mar 2019 23:24:07 -0500 Yes, Barker is very prolific, but I think “Temple Theology” is a very good place to start. I am rereading it at the moment. It’s an early work of hers but you will understand immediately what she is about. She is, by the way, a formidable Hebrew scholar.

Do keep me informed.

]]> 0 423d74217281a6cd89e186b47bfb928c andrew replied to the topic 2.4 The final edition in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-9-the-final-edition/#post-47313 Mon, 11 Mar 2019 23:58:23 -0500 Sheelah, thank you for clarifying those terms which were unfamiliar to me in your response. It would appear my guess at El-Shaddai was way off! I don’t actually know any Hebrew but sometimes, while studying the Bible, I try to connect Hebrew words to one of the smattering of Arabic roots I’ve learned. I did a little poking around in dictionaries…[Read more]

]]> 0 fc7b657e6a5b3620c218cb903b84adc5 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.4 The final edition in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-9-the-final-edition/#post-47310 Sat, 09 Mar 2019 03:11:54 -0600 You seem to have an extremely good grasp of all that Andrew. These two definitions may be helpful:
Monolatry, literally, worship of one god alone. As a modified form of polytheism, the texts of scripture bear witness to monolatry, meaning “Plenty of gods exist, but you are to worship only one of them.” This is also indicated in the first Com…[Read more]

]]> 0 77fdcad89cd0ed163a406ee788a5d79c andrew replied to the topic 2.4 The final edition in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-9-the-final-edition/#post-47308 Mon, 04 Mar 2019 20:52:15 -0600 Which terms are familiar to you?
I have at least heard of all of each of these.

Which terms or dates are unfamiliar?
I would be hard pressed to distinguish between henotheism and monolatry. If I were to run across either term by itself, I would have thought it referred to the devotion to one god over and above all others. Now, seeing them side…[Read more]

]]> 0 36f0957888b1552f17a915fe69163203 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47307 Sat, 02 Mar 2019 05:24:19 -0600 I couldn’t agree more Andrew. And I also think that we find God in the other, in accepting and not judging the weakness and foibles we find. That is seeing Christ in the other, as we hope we will be seen with our own pain, and need of healing.

]]> 0 2c5879ef81b7f096c42f82077b68a24c andrew replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47306 Fri, 01 Mar 2019 20:33:05 -0600 In what ways is your understanding of what God requires from religious people changing? What does it mean to be a good religious person?
I am having a hard time using the word ‘religion’ because I am living in linguistic circles in which the connotative value of that word fluctuates wildly. Sometimes it is associated with perfunctory rep…[Read more]

]]> 0 737a4f338e4a5e76c978e8097fc34f3b Sheelah replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47305 Fri, 01 Mar 2019 07:00:13 -0600 Absolutely, Andrew. This is another example of revelation as an ongoing, evolutionary process, which gradually exposes the lie that God is angry and wants to be appeased by blood sacrifice.

]]> 0 3bd985309c55bdc3cb4cde11476c6080 andrew replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47304 Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:37:54 -0600 Yes, Sheelah, thank you, your synopsis does indeed help. I was attempting to read the Akedah like Girard reads one of those stories which relate a founding murder. These are stories of violent encounters. When told by mythologers, the violence is obfuscated. When told by Biblical authors, the violence is brought into focus. I correctly understood…[Read more]

]]> 0 4b1bc4d775d3bab8f51f6f0a0e8b95a7 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47303 Wed, 27 Feb 2019 06:48:59 -0600 Andrew, here is a brief summary of what James is explaining.

The struggle around interpretation is not imposed upon Scriptures, but something that happens within them. For a rather important example, this session looks at the different interpretations offered by Jeremiah and Ezekiel around the question of God’s involvement with child sacrifice. W…[Read more]

]]> 0 d23c20523057204b930380e868ad54b6 andrew replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47298 Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:23:42 -0600 How has your understanding of the story of Abraham and Isaac changed?
Sheelah, James lost me on this one. You’ll need to help me sort it out. Do I understand this correctly? I’ve enumerated the steps I see James taking, so that you can pinpoint where I go wrong.

[1] James suspects that there are various ways to tell the story of Abraham sac…[Read more]

]]> 0 6e501b701fbafcdc7b33211bddb954b8 optest2 became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2488/ Fri, 22 Feb 2019 06:20:51 -0600 0 ca9b936ad7506e7d81ec6ef0f45536a5 Andy Testing became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2486/ Thu, 21 Feb 2019 15:58:08 -0600 0 804c873ce1715118741d48b3d973893e andrew replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47291 Tue, 19 Feb 2019 17:54:21 -0600 Were you aware that sacrifice of firstborn children was part of the religious practices of ancient Israel, as of the surrounding nations? How do you feel about that?
Yes, but I still find it very striking to be reminded just how matter of course the practice would have seemed.

–The stories about human sacrifice made Marcion so queasy that he…[Read more]

]]> 0 c2eae1a6397c0ca41be174ab654fc1dd Sheelah replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47290 Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:09:53 -0600 Indeed, Andrew. That is the process of inculturation that we looked at in previous modules. And, here in 2.3 we have the struggle around interpretation that is not imposed upon Scriptures, but something that happens within them. For a rather important example, we’ll look at the different interpretations offered by Jeremiah and Ezekiel around t…[Read more]

]]> 0 56f4e0866eec323e87e7e895e868f7bb andrew replied to the topic 2.3 Interpretation in the Scriptures in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-8-interpretation-in-the-scriptures/#post-47289 Fri, 15 Feb 2019 17:21:30 -0600 Share ways in which you have noticed the content, questions or insights from the previous Module showing up in your lives.
I’ve been thinking about a couple of billionaires who were being compared to one another recently in the news. Both claim to be “self-made” men with political aspirations, but I was initially led to see a clear demar…[Read more]

]]> 0 f03656d20e35030598113952056ebc29 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47288 Thu, 14 Feb 2019 23:11:51 -0600 This is an excellent reading of James’ intent Andrew. As you say, reading the scriptures through the eyes of the Forgiving Victim is not an abstract theological exercise, but rather a learning about human behaviour. Seeing scripture through Jesus’ eyes is an extraordinary learning process, is it not?

]]> 0 7479181fc8ecb82eead24b479ee53189 optest became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2476/ Thu, 14 Feb 2019 02:36:18 -0600 0 348b12c597488e3365fd3482b7dd5966 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47279 Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:59:42 -0600 James explains that reading the texts through the eyes of the Forgiving Victim is a particular option for interpretation. What difference does this option make to how we interpret Scriptures?
Reading scripture doesn’t have to be a theological exercise. It does not have to be a matter of distinguishing two gods from one another or about o…[Read more]

]]> 0 88962f52b9657f159255ed7935080144 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47273 Sun, 10 Feb 2019 01:47:29 -0600 Absolutely, Andrew. James’ intention in this section is to introduce two different approaches to reading Scriptures: the Marcionite way of reading and the fundamentalist approach. He then goes on to demonstrate that by approaching Scriptures as a progressive revelation, we can discover new and more true things about God and ourselves. In t…[Read more]

]]> 0 04ae373892ba22d3ea2524ad56fdca83 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47271 Sun, 10 Feb 2019 01:36:19 -0600 A brilliant description of a chilling event, Andrew.

]]> 0 53b0510f818bcfafa0a217a7f924f302 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47269 Sat, 09 Feb 2019 16:28:52 -0600 Have you read, or do you know someone who reads, Scripture from a Marcionite perspective? What question does a Marcionite reading attempt to answer?
I suppose I have heard people talk about “God in the Old Testament” as if this were a distinct from what we read in the Gospels.

Why does James say a Marcionite reading of Scriptures is a mis…[Read more]

]]> 0 19aac38d00f00a2566b1236ca734971d St. Paul's Episcopal, DeKalb, IL became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2462/ Fri, 08 Feb 2019 00:58:04 -0600 0 c7f716483702a05ebee01665ca8b248f andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47194 Wed, 06 Feb 2019 14:07:06 -0600 Share a favorite mystery or detective story. Describe what effect learning “who done it” at the end had on how you viewed certain characters or events from earlier in the story.
The first season of the British television series “Broadchurch” is perhaps the most gripping detective story I have ever been told. It isn’t about a crafty killer wh…[Read more]

]]> 0 d1d38e0b57ecef6c01ef17cdb18ffc97 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47193 Mon, 04 Feb 2019 19:31:15 -0600 Thank you for sharing these quotes, Sheelah. I found them to be quite fertile beginnings for meditation. I look forward to pausing to reread them in the future. These are my thoughts thus far. It’ll help if I enumerate the clauses of the first passage.

(1) Our challenge as Christians is not to try to convert people around us to our way of b…[Read more]

]]> 0 dca0d11f3c3de5ea84057667ba0c8fe8 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47192 Mon, 04 Feb 2019 02:06:46 -0600 Well, Andrew we all have our demons of one sort or another and we all have to learn to forgive ourselves and allow ourselves to be loved. We need more heart knowledge and less head knowledge.

I have always found the following advice from the wonderful John Main and Dorothy Day to come from a deep well of experience, humility and compassion,…[Read more]

]]> 0 528a5ef302722a32b0d8a558e4539351 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47191 Sun, 03 Feb 2019 15:29:29 -0600 Yes, it has occurred to me that it is my neighbors and loved ones who have provided me with my desires, both profound and superficial. But I haven’t ever tried to catalogue precisely which desires come from who.

Yes, I’ve known resentment all too well on too many occasions. It occurred to me one night how much I hated a certain type of person. I…[Read more]

]]> 0 3053a91c09cfcbd348ede8f160ece8eb Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47190 Sun, 03 Feb 2019 04:41:38 -0600 I think the best way of helping others to see, is to BE what you believe. Francis of Assisi was reputed to have said “preach the gospel, use words if you have to”. If he didn’t say it, he should have !!

So good to hear from you again Andrew.

]]> 0 56d51e48994182738f391a88c51d36b7 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47189 Sun, 03 Feb 2019 04:33:12 -0600 Andrew, as I read your post, I wonder if you have thought to see all this as relational, not as an abstract concept. James is teaching an anthropology of Christianity, that is, how we relate to one another. Can you think of all the people in your family circle, the workplace and your social life and how you relative to them? Do you ever think…[Read more]

]]> 0 ff1335ca4b5ec6f2ca5192b04e0c4d88 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47188 Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:27:15 -0600 I’d like to publicly thank whoever had the foresight to sell these online subscriptions to the Forgiving Victim series in 2-year stints. It has been a very pleasant experience to think on a question for months, get nowhere with it, and know all the while there is still a supervised forum awaiting my return. Thank you, Sheelah, for your q…[Read more]

]]> 0 26e1b99f747f30cbf56f6c876ccb7d18 andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47187 Sat, 02 Feb 2019 16:15:53 -0600 Yes, Sheelah, I believe you were correct to describe what I observed as an instantiation of how “The idea of the autonomous self really does die hard.” I was reviewing the first video of module one yesterday. In the introductory bit, before the lessons begin, James says, “What I hope you are going to get from this course is quite how far remov…[Read more]

]]> 0 13e8ff5b298a67ee6bebac247ca9ec7c Patrick O'Beirne became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2448/ Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:50:26 -0500 0 ef6bbd58e9752b3a7c5de111bc3b1515 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47178 Mon, 01 Oct 2018 00:23:54 -0500 Andrew, I’ve frequently observed that the concept that we desire according to the desire of another seems to be immediately obvious to some people but quite a struggle for others. The idea of the autonomous self really does die hard. Would I be correct in thinking that this is what you are observing here? Can you think of any examples or i…[Read more]

]]> 0 8efea908065d86435dfcca134daf7a9e andrew replied to the topic 2.2 Prophecy and interpretation in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-7-prophecy-and-interpretation/#post-47177 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:15:39 -0500 Share ways in which you have noticed the content, questions or insights from the previous Module showing up in your lives.
Yesterday, I heard someone sharing one of those tell-all accounts of oneself, which certain evangelicals like to call ‘testimonies’. She lamented a former time in her life in which she “didn’t know who she was.” She recalls a…[Read more]

]]> 0 a99ff1ed5289c7d45ea85469b03947ec Sheelah replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47176 Sun, 16 Sep 2018 00:02:09 -0500 Andrew, when you say “I don’t know that I have attained the ‘converted’ position required to do that yet.” I think that most of us spend our lives trying to attain this position and stay there, so fear not ! It is so easy to slip back into the archaic sacred.

Your description of the plight of the undocumented workers in the US is an excellent…[Read more]

]]> 0 d35eea00eaf79734a702273c73df6112 andrew replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47175 Mon, 10 Sep 2018 13:45:39 -0500 No doubt it will be quite an ordeal when I finally come to grips with a personal story as told by the purportedly “evil” characters against who I’d managed to concoct a semblance of “goodness” to ascribe to myself. I don’t know that I have attained the ‘converted’ position required to do that yet. It is much easier to think of oneself unveili…[Read more]

]]> 0 bfce20757b16d2c77829aa4d8f82f236 Sheelah replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47173 Mon, 27 Aug 2018 14:45:32 -0500 Yes, absolutely Andrew. You cited an excellent example of the unheard voice in 1 Samuel 18. Where might we listen for the unheard voice of the Forgiving Victim in the stoning of Achan? Somehow Joshua and the Israelites’ belief in their own goodness survived the stoning, preventing them from including Achan’s perspective in their account of the…[Read more]

]]> 0 9e180f26c4d1ad0e300d0c1baaf03931 andrew replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47172 Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:08:25 -0500 Imagine that the story you identified in Unit 2, “Reading Scripture through new eyes” was one of the stories that Jesus interpreted on the road to Emmaus. Where might you listen for the unheard voice of the Forgiving Victim in that story?
As for where we might listen for the unheard voice in 1 Samuel 18, it doesn’t seem possible to hear forgi…[Read more]

]]> 0 08d3845c7ff05f67e45d190882888e94 Sheelah replied to the topic 1.2 The social other in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/the-social-other/#post-47155 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:43:10 -0500 Peter, welcome to the Forum. Yes, indeed, James’ thinking on the ‘social other’ is life changing: “The social other is everything in the world that is other than ‘me’. It is prior to us and includes other people, the climate, the weather, the country, the geography, the atmosphere, the agriculture that enables food to be grown and so on. God…[Read more]

]]> 0 6329579306db0e279c74384b29aa4c43 Peter Torney replied to the topic 1.2 The social other in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/the-social-other/#post-47153 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:44:55 -0500 I enjoyed this presentation by James. Coming from a social science background I had got used to taking that reflexive stance and listening to James made me revisit it again – how much of my ways of thinking feeling and acting have been influenced by ‘the social other’ I asked myself again, the answer being – a lot!. I had forgotten how important…[Read more]

]]> 0 773e3476ee2b644db18bd15d3487a950 Peter Torney became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2435/ Wed, 22 Aug 2018 20:50:26 -0500 0 0221eef13c22c4263d4e12b9cb7eada0 Deacon Al Love became a registered member https://www.forgivingvictim.com/activity/p/2433/ Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:14:43 -0500 0 ff362fff09ba6cee30bbc528241217ca Sheelah replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47152 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 16:16:26 -0500 As Part Two looks intensely at the Bible, it can be difficult to find our way into these texts because of the linguistic and cultural issues that separate us from the ancient world. What you have described here as making you queasy or uncomfortable is an excellent example. As James puts it, we can feel as if we’ve stumbled into the middle of a…[Read more]

]]> 0 04df54aab3ad12a48313e9eeb9007bc6 andrew replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47151 Tue, 14 Aug 2018 22:18:55 -0500 To begin this process of discovery, share an Old Testament story that has made you queasy or uncomfortable and explain why.
1 Samuel 17 is the story of David and Goliath. Chapter 18 begins with Saul’s son Jonathan being quite taken with David and his military exploits. Saul is galled and anxious that another should be more highly lauded in I…[Read more]

]]> 0 b4f973dab8e3653911b0db4825430b1d Sheelah replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47150 Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:18:52 -0500 Exactly.

]]> 0 8cec180dbe5abc0b91362804d153177e andrew replied to the topic 2.1 The stoning of Achan in the forum <i>Jesus the Forgiving Victim</i> Online Course Discussion Forum https://www.forgivingvictim.com/forums/topic/module-6-the-stoning-of-achan/#post-47149 Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:08:33 -0500 Yes, I do suppose that the single mediator who formulates Jesus’ desires at every turn is the one he calls Abba (and the creed calls Father almighty maker of heaven and earth).

And, yes, it is certainly worth pointing out that Jesus is never indifferent to the crowds—even if he is impervious to what Andrew Marr calls their “mimetic res…[Read more]

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